February 05, 2009 by Irv Miller

Irv’s Sheet: Prius Plug-In MPG Not Yet Available

You may have read a recent headline and story in Automotive News that suggested a Toyota spokesperson said that our U.S. plug-in hybrid (PHV) test vehicles have achieved, on average, about 65 mpg in testing. The interview took place at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit last month.

We believe there was a misunderstanding between the reporter and the spokesperson, who were also discussing Prius vehicles that had been converted to plug-ins by aftermarket companies and are currently being tested by private individuals, companies, utilities and so on. Many of these owners of converted PHVs have stated or publicly posted performance numbers in the 65 mpg range.

For the record, Toyota has only a small test fleet of PHVs in the U.S. and has never offered mileage estimates on PHV technology. These PHVs are being used for auto show displays, brief demonstrations and university studies. They are very early "converted" prototypes using double nickel-metal hydride batteries.

Although mileage data has been collected during demonstration events, it varies too widely to offer any indication of what to expect consistently. Most importantly, these vehicles are not representative of the lithium-ion-battery-powered next-generation Prius PHVs that will be delivered to lease-fleet customers later this year.

When asked about the mpg performance of PHVs – either lithium or nickel battery powered – we have consistently answered that we believe that PHV mileage will vary dramatically, depending on driving style and driving conditions . . . even more dramatically than with a conventional gas-electric hybrid. This is due to the added weight of a large battery that, once depleted by pure-electric drive, will contribute nothing until it is plugged in and re-charged.

We have also stated that it is too early to discuss anticipated mileage ranges based on early preliminary testing in Japan by Toyota Motor Corporation engineers.

We look forward to getting in-use driving feedback from the 150 lease-fleet customers who will receive our lithium battery-powered Prius PHVs early next year. We anticipate a wide range of fuel efficiency performance numbers. And we regret the misunderstanding that prompted this recent news story.

Originally published on the Toyota Open Road blog on Feb. 05, 2009.

Comments

Willard West, September 29, 2009
What I would most like to see is a Porsche Caymen, rear engine, rear drive, with the latest Prius hybrid system but keeping the "old" 1.5L via DFI adoption.
Jay Turner, July 16, 2009
Only 65? I've averaged 73 since December 2008, and my 48-mile round trip commute is over hilly terrain. I'd be getting closer to 90 if I could charge the car up at the office. The Hymotion L5 lithium battery kit really works, and it's a testament to Toyota's great design that all it takes to get spectacular gas mileage is to use a better battery. Think of what Toyota could achieve with weight reduction and tweaks to the gas and electric motors! I'm looking forward to hearing about the results from Toyota's plug-in test next year.
DrPowell, June 13, 2009
I agree, interesting post. Leaves me wondering something. Prius lovers are already familiar with the range of fuel efficiency we get, as temp, terrain, and load/weight changes, so the point about the drag on mileage from a depleted and heavier battery makes sense. Do you at least have enough test data to say a distance range that these LiIon PHEV fleet Priuses could go on electric power only vs. the current NIMH Priuses?
Seren, April 30, 2009
Things I would like to see coming from TOYOTA to USA - 1 - I would like to see a 4 door Yaris or honda fit looking (4 door or hatch) HYBRID (ideally Lithium Ion) for sale in 2010 by toyota. 2- A NON BORING 2010 Corolla with LEDS interior like Ford Focus, with CVT for added mileage and direct fuel injection - with those 2 added features Ill bet Corolla would get 38/45 real world mileage!! and not even have to be a 'hybrid' right now :) 3 - I would like to see Toyota not get whacked by Hyundai as Hyundai already has a production lithium ion POLYMER battery hybrid out in Korea right now (Forteo). Its suppose to come over in late 2010, with much more options as standard and much better pricing, and better mileage than Prius II ! 4- I am wondering WHY Toyota wont do CVT in all its sedans ? Why not direct fuel injection, why not turbo diesels in USA at least as an option?? :( I have owned toyota/scions for many many years. Its products are solid but boring. Why cant toyota make a world class CHEAPER hybrid type vehicle - like making the Corolla a partial hybrid, and FUN interior at least as an OPTION ?? Why does Japan always get SUPER cool vehicles and then they ship americans the most bland interiors possible :( Hope to see more interior FUN options and even better mileage from toyota....I think Hondas competition will motivate Toyota execs to see you have to EXCITE people, with either super pricing or super fun options or better yet BOTH .....if wanna win sales game :)
Bob, June 02, 2009
Great! cool post

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